Monday, August 15, 2016

Let’s Talk About Why I go to SSPX

Secret’s out; I’ve been attending SSPX. It’s honestly not that big of deal to me, but it is to others so it needs to be addressed for various reasons. I totally realize that the decision to attend seems somewhat “out there” or even extreme, but I promise you that it’s nothing of the sort. The change was gradual and very well thought out. Despite those facts I’ve still faced some criticisms. For going to the Society I’ve been called not Catholic anymore, along with sedevacantist. To both I just laughed. See, I don’t get easily triggered and I’m not afraid of genuine discussions or debates, so I’m always open to talking about it. I’ve been called crazy ever since I started embracing tradition as a teenager, so it does’t faze me whatsoever. I don’t consider hiding behind the barbs of ad hominems and unprecedented accusations to be conducive to the veritable pursuit of truth, so let’s place our biases aside and simply talk about it. 

Prior to really getting into it, let’s first clarify what the Society is and is not. Before I go forward I need you, my readers, to understand what the Society is for what it is; not for what you’ve heard, have been told, or what you think it is. Information easily becomes false, misled, or erroneous, among both laypeople and even religious. It has become like a game of telephone; you won’t know exactly what it is until you find out firsthand, and I always make it of personal importance not to share anything that isn’t true. I won’t and don’t pretend to know everything about it, but I do know enough to continue to attend in good conscience.

Getting down to the basics, the Society of St. Pius X was founded by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, in 1970, in a diocese in Switzerland. Straight from the Society, here’s the mission: 

“The main goal of the Priestly Society of St. Pius X is to preserve the Catholic faith in its fullness and purity, to teach its truths, and to diffuse its virtues, especially through the Roman Catholic priesthood. Authentic spiritual life, the sacraments, and traditional liturgy are its primary means of bringing this life of grace to souls.” 

 
That’s it. There’s nothing crazy, wild, or not Catholic, or Protestant about it. My awesome priest put it this way, we are part of the Society especially because we want authentic Catholicism. I’m not sorry for attending, and I do not want some watered down version of our faith. I know I’m about to offend some people, but that’s what the Novus Ordo missae is; a watered down version of the Roman Missae, sometimes barely even Catholic. This isn’t a post bashing the novus ordo, yet it has to be said. It’s not well-known that several very important prayers, designed to garner us the graces our souls so desperately need, are totally and completely missing from the Novus Ordo missae, as compared to the traditional liturgy, (I believe only 2 or maybe 3 prayers are present out of the 12 in the TLM, correct me if I’m wrong). In less words, graces are choked out and it’s a fact. It’s not a fact just because I’m saying it is, or because a saint or pope has said it is, but because simply comparing the two liturgies will tell you it is. 

As sinners we need all of the graces we can get to overcome sin and to elevate our souls closer and closer to union with God. To me, there’s no point in attending a mass that has very little graces as compared to one abounding in grace. I dare you to ask yourself this, why are you letting yourself miss out on that? Notice that I’ve never once said that the Novus Ordo mass is invalid, so don’t even try to twist my words on that.  

Now I’ve heard the objection of remaining at Novus Ordo parishes to set the example of maintaining reverence, but I don’t buy that anymore in the slightest. I’ve tried it, and frankly it doesn’t work. It’s only working within the realms of your imagination. Hard to swallow but it’s true. When the altar is turned around with the priest facing the people, God isn’t the focus of mass anymore, it’s the people. Since it’s all about the people, no one is looking at the reverent ones; they’re too busy looking at themselves because that’s what taught and encouraged. My advice is to just stop going, get to a mass that’ll aid in saving your and your families souls, that’s what it comes down to. It doesn’t come down to “solidarity”, “unity”, or “fellowship”, with the parish community, that’s of no importance whatsoever. To me it is dangerous and foolish to be so presumptive that you don’t need the additional graces to save your soul. As they say, pride goes before the fall. I say this with love because I have been there, and because I care.

There’s also the controversy that SSPX is against the sitting pope or worse, sedevacantists. Before I started doing my own research or attending myself, I also thought it was sedevacantist. I couldn’t make the distinction between sedevacantism and SSPX because I was never correctly taught. Once about two years ago I stumbled upon an SSPX chapel where they were preparing for mass, and I falsely thought it was sede, since I didn’t know the difference, so I left in a hurry. The Society still remains under the pope, accepts him as Pontiff sitting in the Chair of Peter, and prays for him during mass. If anything I think the Society respects and honors the papacy more than others, but that’s just my opinion. At my parish we even have a picture of him in the hall, that doesn’t look like being anti-Pope to me. 

I understand that people think the Society is sedevacantist or outside of the Church because of the ordination of the bishop’s by Archbishop Lefebvre. Or, because the canonical status is irregular. (However that is changing) I’m here to tell you that the “excommunication” was never formal, and more about the case of Supplied Jurisdiction, which is in Canon Law. Since Archbishop Lefebvre acted and the Society acts under supplied jurisdiction, the Society is not acting outside of the Church, since again supplied jurisdiction is permissible in Canon Law. The thing about VII (whoop there it is) is that as only a pastoral council, it was never meant to be a binding council doctrinally, except within the case of faith and morals. Yet not everyone understands or cares to understand Canon Law, or what is binding and what is not binding, so as a result we have this misunderstanding. 

Yes, there’s controversy over the Society, but much of it is misinformation or straight out slander. You can give me a hundred reasons not to attend the Society, but I won’t stop. I’ve already heard them, with the rebuttals close behind. To add to it, I won’t even go to diocesan Latin masses if I can help it, and I’m not sorry or ashamed to admit it. 

The main reason I love the Society is because of the way it approaches the priesthood. Far too many men are effeminate, and I’m sick of it, especially in priests. Every single SSPX priest or seminarian I have come across has been masculine, and it’s so refreshing. I have much to say about watered down and effeminate novus ordo seminaries, but for that topic I will digress. I’m already trying to be feminine, and I don’t need a priest to be effeminate right next to me. For my own parish priest I have such respect and admiration that I’ve never had for another priest. He’s truly a father to me, and he’s showed me what a priest is to be. Not distant or discontented from his parishioners, but masculine and down in the trenches with them, actually taking the time to be there for them, and know us outside of just a quick handshake, and “God bless you,” after mass. I don’t want a priest who is only pastoral and not available to the people. SSPX gives the priesthood and priests back to the people as they are sacerdotal and I wish it were something we could all have, since it’s such a blessing and treasure. I think it’s something everyone, Catholic or not, should experience. 

The Society of St. Pius X is for everyone, and it’s not something to be afraid of or intimidated by. There your soul will be fed, challenged, and healed in a truly Catholic way. It’s been such a huge blessing for my family, and even boyfriend. The experience isn’t something I can fully put into words because it’s something you have to experience for yourself. I’ve shared much of my faith journey here, and after searching for so long, my soul is at home there, and home is where it will stay. 



                                   

16 comments:

  1. You do still attend the celebration of the Mass every Sunday though, even if you can't find an SSPX chapel, correct?

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    1. Yes, I'll go to a diocesan Latin mass if I have to, but I can almost always find an SSPX, ICKSP, or FSSP parish nearby.

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  2. Beautifully said! Veritas ! I cannot find myself to attend another Mass either...

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  3. Beautifully said! Veritas ! I cannot find myself to attend another Mass either...

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  4. Very nice, well thought out, and articulate blog post. I appreciate your openness with the subject. Many -- especially well known, Catholic bloggers who defend the Society, -- tend to preface all their posts with, "Just to be clear, I don't attend the SSPX." As if by attending the SSPX it would somehow nullify their point of view. So this was a breath of fresh air to see someone post without apology of their experience and their reasons as to why they feel the need to do so. Thank you for the post, and keep up the good fight!

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  5. A very well put explanation, thank you! I have a question I hope you can answer. I've hear the point made by friends and even my husband about how VII wasn't meant to be doctrinally binding and my question is how can you know that? Im not opposed to your position but I need to be ready to substantiate that claim if I make that point. Thank you!

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    1. Thanks! VII isn’t doctrinally binding because it was only a pastoral council, not dogmatic. A dogmatic council tackles major heresies and clarifies Church teachings, such as doctrine, which VII did neither of. It’s been clarified that VII is only binding within faith and morals, but nothing else.

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  6. A great explanation. Eloquent and down to earth.

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  7. You are not alone. Some French dioceses are joining the SSPX Rosary Crusade.

    http://www.onepeterfive.com/french-diocesan-priests-call-faithful-join-sspx-rosary-crusade/

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  8. Yvonne, the issue with your argument about the graces in mass is that it makes too much of the graces of particular prayers and too little of the graces of the sacrament of Communion. We can pray anytime, anywhere. That isn't why we gather for mass. We gather for mass for the sacrament of the Eucharist.

    The graces that come from that sacrament are far superior than that of mere prayer, particularly in terms of participation in Christ (in what you called a "closer to union with God.") That theosis is achieved in partaking of the Eucharist itself and also we are empowered by the graces the Eucharist gives us to further participate in Christ.

    So, the argument we have with SSPX isn't about reverence; it's about authority, and it always has been. The Archbishop Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre disobeyed the Holy See when he decided unilaterally to anoint more bishops. he didn't have any permission to do that. That's part of the issue. The SSPX has acted for the most of its time outside of the proper channels of authority because it believes it is right. That isn't how proper ecclesiology works. That isn't how the hierarchy works.

    Everything you're saying about the Novus Ordo is irrelevant in the end, because the SSPX is a schismatic group. By doing what he wanted and rebelling against the greater Church, the archbishop has de facto broken you off from the body.

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    1. First of all, are you Catholic or are you Protestant? With that flawed and heretical logic, we don’t ever need to go to mass since it’s not about prayer, it’s all about Jesus. Yes, St. Thomas Aquinas says that the Eucharist is the source and summit of our faith, but why wouldn’t you want to receive Him with the fullness of surrounding grace, that only a priest can garner for you, instead of just partial, if any? For a mass to be completely valid there must be proper intent, form, and matter, which includes those “mere prayers”. If the mass isn’t valid, then the Eucharist isn’t of consequence, since the bread hasn’t been transubstantiated to Christ. As a Catholic trying to work out my salvation in fear and trembling, I shouldn’t have to go to mass wondering if the mass said was fully valid or not, it should always be a given. But unfortunately it’s not when we have modernist influences infecting the Church and stripping it of it’s true beauty and graces. You can think I’m tradical, but to me you sound like a Protestant complaining about the pomp, bells, and whistles since it’s all about Jesus.

      One main point of my post is that if you can have more graces, then why not? But first I think you personally need to understand the importance of grace, combined with the graces of the Eucharist. If the mass and language were originally codified in 1570 by a previous pope to protect it from change and innovation, then who is really in schism? Even so, the Society having irregular canonical status does not equate to schism.

      Archbishop Lefebvre did have the authority to ordain bishops since he was an archbishop, under Supplied Jurisdiction which is in Canon Law. That state of emergency of the Church was (and is) glaring, and he wasn’t going to be obedient unto disobedience. Even without permission it’s still valid given his status as an archbishop, and due to the state of emergency it was totally necessary. You can’t argue that the Society acts outside of the proper channels of authority when Lefebvre and the continuing bishops and priests totally act under the authority of Canon Law, which in turn is under the Church itself.

      So no, everything I have said about Novus Ordo is not irrelevant because you haven’t given me anything that hasn’t been or can be refuted even deeper, or that smells of a Protestant theology. It’s all talking points and fallacious. The Society has never been in schism, or rebelled against the greater Church. If Society was truly in schism then Pope Francis wouldn’t have just recently said that that Society has always been Catholic and has always had full authority. https://akacatholic.com/pope-francis-confirms-it-sspx-has-always-had-supplied-jurisdiction/

      The only crime SSPX is guilty of is one of fidelity.

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    2. Yvonne, you know me. I'm the Joe Martinez from your former parish. Second, I would be cautious about throwing around the word "heretic" so quickly. It's a bit rude and unnecessary to go there right off the bat and you're not going to win any arguments insulting your detractors by name calling.

      You have hit on another issue in the debate which is whether or not the form and matter has changed. You say it did wit the Novus Ordo. We say it didn't. All the necessary components are present. That's what I mean when I said "mere prayers." If some prayers were removed, a case could be made that they were not essential to the form of the mass. What proof do I have?

      The Tridentine Mass is not the first mass the Church has ever had. The first mass was obviously Apostolic Liturgies shown in the bible (like Acts, and the Epistles of Paul). We also have remnants of these ancient traditions in the form of the Marianite rite mass. The Tridentine mass, in our view was a tradition, with a lower-case t. It wasn't something that was theologically necessary to the salvation of the people of God.

      The thing that is necessary is the liturgy itself. The Eucharist. The mere fact that we have so many different traditions (Byzantine, Marianite, Chaldean) shows that the tradition of the mass can change without destroying its form.

      Your people have improperly elevated these other elements. That's the issue.

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    3. Additionally, in regard to your "supplied jurisdiction" argument (which is something else we think you are taking way out of proportion) here's the actual full text of the pope's words:

      "A final consideration concerns those faithful who for various reasons choose to attend churches officiated by priests of the Fraternity of St Pius X. This Jubilee Year of Mercy excludes no one. From various quarters, several Brother Bishops have told me of their good faith and sacramental practice, combined however with an uneasy situation from the pastoral standpoint. I trust that in the near future solutions may be found to recover full communion with the priests and superiors of the Fraternity. In the meantime, motivated by the need to respond to the good of these faithful, through my own disposition, I establish that those who during the Holy Year of Mercy approach these priests of the Fraternity of St Pius X to celebrate the Sacrament of Reconciliation shall validly and licitly receive the absolution of their sins."

      You can notice that the pope hopes to eventually "recover full communion with the priests and superiors of the Fraternity." Also, he says, " I establish that those who during the Holy Year of Mercy approach these priests..." He specifies that it is during this year of Mercy. its an olive branch. He's making many gestures like this. This is also why he reached out to the Lutheran denomination this year. It's the year of Mercy, and only during the year of Mercy is this happening (according to his words here).

      Don't believe me?

      here is the actual transcript from the Vatican website which you can study yourself. I won't read 3rd party websites in this discussion. I need the actual sources here.

      https://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/letters/2015/documents/papa-francesco_20150901_lettera-indulgenza-giubileo-misericordia.html

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  10. Its 2021 next week. Pope Francis extended the SSPX Priests Faculties to absolve sins past the year of Mercy. Ave Maria

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  11. Google Fr Zs blog
    (Father John Zuldolph) and put SSPX in search box and people can read and understand the most updated information on SSPX
    Father Z offers the Latin Mass in Wisconsin USA Hope this helps anyone looking for answers. I believe the last post was in Autumn of 2020 after a Twitter scuffle scuffle broke out
    Father Z wanted to help clarify some information for people Are Maria

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